Herr Satz

La République française

Hello, I write on your discussion site to talk with you about La République française. If you know anything about the newspaper you should tell it me or other Wikipedianers who are in this or in this list. The first list shows users who speaks English at a near-native level. The other list shows users who speaks French at a near-native level. It is very important for all Wikis to have a complete article. Thanks for your help, -- Viele Grüße Lancy 10:14, 20. Jun. 2009 (CEST)

Hi!

Unfortunately I am not able to speak a fluent English, but I hope it will be enough to make myself understood (sure my English is better than my German, thought :/).

About the newspaper, I must admit that I don't know much more than what I wrote on the French Wikipedia (and that BKSlink translated here).

When I did that, I just felt it was important not to leave a redirect from La République française to Journal officiel de la République française, because those newspapers are two quite different things (in spite of similar names) (Journal officiel de la République française is not a real newspaper, actually), and such a redirect could be a source of confusion.

I removed your {{QS-Antrag}} too, because the justification was obvisouly wrong. But it may still qualify for speedy deletion, for other justification; for example, I don't know whether this newspaper meets the notability guideline on the German Wikipedia (neither on the French Wikipedia, by the way); or maybe the German Wikipedia does not accept too short stubs like this one; I don't know how you folks rule here.

So, what I mean is: if the article La République française cannot exist on its own (because of the lack of notability or information about it, or any other rule on the German Wikipedia), it should be deleted, but not in anyway be a redirect to Journal officiel de la République française (because it would be like making a redirect from Der Spiegel to Bundesgesetzblatt (Deutschland)).

Hope that helps... :) Herr Satz 11:03, 20. Jun. 2009 (CEST)

Hey,

your English is okay, I can understand everything. Well, we "German folks" are very different: There are some who deletes articles like La République française or others who makes a QS-Antrag. I thought it could be quite important if a German writes an article about a French newspaper. In your Wiki, there are German newspapers, too. But you should know, that you are not allowed to remove SLA-Anträge or QS-Anträge such as doodle. For more information look here for SLAs and here for QSs. Well, it's okay, that you have no other ideas for the newspaper, now it's our work to tackle this problem.-- Viele Grüße Lancy 11:19, 20. Jun. 2009 (CEST)

Sorry for the removal of the QS-Antrag, and the subsequent speedy deletion request; I mixed them up in my mind.

Indeed, we don't have any template for speedy deletion request on the French Wikipedia: people make request on a dedicated page where one can contest it. So I did not know that it was not allowed to remove it here, and I thought appropriate to remove a speedy deletion request based on something wrong.

As for the QS-Antrag, it seems to be the equivalent of our "demande de recyclage", but we use to place this template on very long et fuzzy articles, rather than on very short stubs like this one, so I was a bit confuse.

Anyway. I tried to expand it a bit on the French Wikipedia. I believe there is more to say, since this newspaper, which had a strong political involvement because of his founder Gambetta, seems to have been crucial in the path that led him and his party, the Union républicaine, to the power. They seem to have used it as a kind of "weapon".

But unfortunately the signal-to-noise ratio is very low when I try to make some search, due to the very close similarity between the title of the newspaper (La République française), and the name of our system of government (la République française).

By the way, I hope you were not offended when I said "you folks": I thought it was a pretty friendly wording, but now I am not sure anymore... Herr Satz 15:34, 20. Jun. 2009 (CEST)

I thought you folks is friendly, I used "" because it was a quote to your answer. And anyway it doesn't matter if you make faults in wikis. No one cares about your wrong adjudication, but me just to help you. If you would make it 100 times, someone will write on your site - now you know that we German have more rules. We are off one's rocker because we must have a rule for everything - even for speedly deletion. Well, thanks for your help, you folk :) It's no problem that this article is not as long as others. If you can't find information on Google it can't be relevant.-- Viele Grüße Lancy 22:21, 20. Jun. 2009 (CEST)